Comments on: The Curbstoning Auto Scam http://www.security-faqs.com/the-curbstoning-auto-scam.html Security FAQs - answers to common questions about antivirus and other infosec issues. Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:03:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Lee http://www.security-faqs.com/the-curbstoning-auto-scam.html/comment-page-1#comment-4286 Lee Sat, 30 Aug 2008 01:00:25 +0000 http://www.scamtypes.com/?p=1829#comment-4286 Thanks for such a comprehensive reply Richard! The main point I picked out was about airbags. If getting ripped off financially wasn't bad enough, having a potentially lethal vehicle ought to be enough to persuade people to research their purchases in advance. Thanks for such a comprehensive reply Richard!

The main point I picked out was about airbags. If getting ripped off financially wasn’t bad enough, having a potentially lethal vehicle ought to be enough to persuade people to research their purchases in advance.

]]> By: Richard Wishbey http://www.security-faqs.com/the-curbstoning-auto-scam.html/comment-page-1#comment-4285 Richard Wishbey Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:44:41 +0000 http://www.scamtypes.com/?p=1829#comment-4285 This story is very accurate. In Texas, we have a very serious problem with Curbstoners. Texas deregulated the Salvage Industry, presumably to make it easier to export damaged vehicles into Mexico and in order that country would have a steady supply of used vehicle parts. Instead, a lot of guys that work in body shops buy wrecked cars at the salvage auctions. They drag them home, chain it to a tree and pull out the dents. They don't fix them properly by replacing the air bags. They only do just enough work to hide the damage and then park them on the side of the road and at Flea Markets. This has allowed a lot of Dangerous Vehicles to be cycled back into the vehicle chain. Unsuspecting consumers end up being screwed when they by a vehicle that still has a bent frame and No Air Bags. Whereas the vehicle normally would have been either dismantled for parts or Exported, the vehciles end up becoming a danger for its operator and passengers. These shoddily repaired vehicles are also a danger to any person that shares the roadway. All States should address this issue by reviewing their laws and make changes where needed. The Public needs to be protected. It's up to law enforcment and our law makers. Curbstoners are merely out to make a quick buck. And they do it by offering (misrepresenting) vehicles that an ethical dealer would not touch. Most vehicles that have been in an accident will have deployed Air Bags. By not replacing the Air Bags, the Unscurpulous Curbstoner can save $2K to $3K simply by not replacing the Air Bags and Sensors. Beware, if they don't replace the Air Bag Sensors in the bumpers, the Passive Restraint (Shoulder Harness) will not lock in a subsequent collision. This is Very, Very Dangerous. Like I said, Curbstoners are Unscrupulous, they will not fix things that really need fixing if they can hide the fact. They won't fix the Air Bags and will disconnect the Warning Lights simply by removing the Warning Light Bulbs. If you are going to buy a car from the side of the road, First, take the vehicle to a reputable mechanic and dig for as much information as possible concerning the vehicle history. And Remember, if a deal seems too good to be true, it is! Also if you think you have discovered a Curbstoner Report him to the State Motor Vehicle Dealer Enforcement Section. You can also report him to the local Automobile Dealers Association, they might be able to help you to get in touch with the proper law enforcement agency. My best advice when car shopping is Don't get into a big hurry and Don't trust anyone when they tell you the condition of a vehicle. Get advice from a third party mechanic. Most Legitimate Dealers will allow you to have a third party mechanic do a pre-purchase inspection just as long as they know you are serious about making a purchase. Do your homework by surfing the Internet for they type of vehicle you intend to buy. The Internet will provide you with a lot of information about the little quirks that a particular vehicle might have. Car Forums are a very good source to find out how much it cost to perform specific repairs on the subject vehicle. The Internet will also help you to get a realistic ideal of what you might expect to pay for a particular type of vehicle. Finally, when dealing with a seller, Get All Promises in Writing. Legitimate Dealers that make claims concerning the fitness of a particular vehicle should be willing to give some type of warranty in writing. If it's not in writing, it doesn't count! Finally, don't forget, take the vehicle to a Third Party Mechanic and find out if the vehicle needs any serious repairs. Although you should expect that most vehicle could use a few minor repairs, you need to make darn certain the repairs won't be more than you will be able to manage. Most happy marraiges begin with a lengthy courtship. Get acquainted with your vehicle before taking the plunge of ownership and you will have a much happier marraige. Good Luck! This story is very accurate. In Texas, we have a very serious problem with Curbstoners. Texas deregulated the Salvage Industry, presumably to make it easier to export damaged vehicles into Mexico and in order that country would have a steady supply of used vehicle parts. Instead, a lot of guys that work in body shops buy wrecked cars at the salvage auctions. They drag them home, chain it to a tree and pull out the dents. They don’t fix them properly by replacing the air bags. They only do just enough work to hide the damage and then park them on the side of the road and at Flea Markets. This has allowed a lot of Dangerous Vehicles to be cycled back into the vehicle chain. Unsuspecting consumers end up being screwed when they by a vehicle that still has a bent frame and No Air Bags. Whereas the vehicle normally would have been either dismantled for parts or Exported, the vehciles end up becoming a danger for its operator and passengers. These shoddily repaired vehicles are also a danger to any person that shares the roadway. All States should address this issue by reviewing their laws and make changes where needed. The Public needs to be protected. It’s up to law enforcment and our law makers. Curbstoners are merely out to make a quick buck. And they do it by offering (misrepresenting) vehicles that an ethical dealer would not touch. Most vehicles that have been in an accident will have deployed Air Bags. By not replacing the Air Bags, the Unscurpulous Curbstoner can save $2K to $3K simply by not replacing the Air Bags and Sensors. Beware, if they don’t replace the Air Bag Sensors in the bumpers, the Passive Restraint (Shoulder Harness) will not lock in a subsequent collision. This is Very, Very Dangerous. Like I said, Curbstoners are Unscrupulous, they will not fix things that really need fixing if they can hide the fact. They won’t fix the Air Bags and will disconnect the Warning Lights simply by removing the Warning Light Bulbs. If you are going to buy a car from the side of the road, First, take the vehicle to a reputable mechanic and dig for as much information as possible concerning the vehicle history. And Remember, if a deal seems too good to be true, it is! Also if you think you have discovered a Curbstoner Report him to the State Motor Vehicle Dealer Enforcement Section. You can also report him to the local Automobile Dealers Association, they might be able to help you to get in touch with the proper law enforcement agency. My best advice when car shopping is Don’t get into a big hurry and Don’t trust anyone when they tell you the condition of a vehicle. Get advice from a third party mechanic. Most Legitimate Dealers will allow you to have a third party mechanic do a pre-purchase inspection just as long as they know you are serious about making a purchase. Do your homework by surfing the Internet for they type of vehicle you intend to buy. The Internet will provide you with a lot of information about the little quirks that a particular vehicle might have. Car Forums are a very good source to find out how much it cost to perform specific repairs on the subject vehicle. The Internet will also help you to get a realistic ideal of what you might expect to pay for a particular type of vehicle. Finally, when dealing with a seller, Get All Promises in Writing. Legitimate Dealers that make claims concerning the fitness of a particular vehicle should be willing to give some type of warranty in writing. If it’s not in writing, it doesn’t count! Finally, don’t forget, take the vehicle to a Third Party Mechanic and find out if the vehicle needs any serious repairs. Although you should expect that most vehicle could use a few minor repairs, you need to make darn certain the repairs won’t be more than you will be able to manage. Most happy marraiges begin with a lengthy courtship. Get acquainted with your vehicle before taking the plunge of ownership and you will have a much happier marraige. Good Luck!

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